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Inspector Morse is a literary character who has appeared in television dramatizations. In multiple places in this article, he is described by referring to the television series, as if there were no difference between the two. I think it's reasonable to say that the people who have added such information have not read the books. To make any sense, the character should be described from the books, with any difference between books and television episodes noted. For instance, in the books, Morse smokes cigarettes - or is trying to quit. Television Morse does not.

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Education

Currently the first sentence of "Education" reads: "Although details of Morse's education are deliberately kept vague, it is hinted that he won a scholarship to study at St John's College, Oxford.[8]". However in the Endeavour (TV series) it is made clear that he attended the (fictional) Lonsdale College. Just wondering if the same is stated in any of the main Inspector Morse (novel or TV series) episodes... either way, maybe the sentence listed above may need to be amended... Cheers Tony Tony 1212 (talk) 06:33, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In "Dead on Time" (Season 6, Ep 1 of the TV series) Morse mentions that the murdered Oxford Don, Henry Fallon, used to be one of his lecturers- although this does not clarify anything much (lecturers' Colleges and the student's College not necessarily being the same)... Also that he used to be engaged to Professor Fallon's current wife Susan (maybe merits a mention somewhere??) before she went off and married Fallon. Cheers Tony Tony 1212 (talk) 22:51, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In the novel "The Riddle of the Third Mile" we learn that Morse was previously a student of Dr. Browne-Smith of Lonsdale College. However, at the start of Chapter Six in the book, when Morse is called in to Lonsdale we read his thought "... now when he himself had been up at St. John's ..." so that matches both of the info above. Mr splosh (talk) 08:49, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

year

is it possible to state the years where the action is set? thanks. 151.29.55.235 (talk) 10:15, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Age of Morse and Lewis

I have just recently read "Last Bus to Woodstock" and "The Riddle of the Third Mile". The version of the novels I have read have Morse driving a Lancia, and not, as apparently edited in for later reprints, a Jaguar; the copyrights are dated 1975 and 1983 respectively so I think these are original editions.

In one of these novels, it is stated that Lewis is slightly older than Morse (though Dexter's prose quite honestly can get confusing as to which 'he' is being referred to, so I may be wrong in my understanding, but I did stop and re-read the relevant paragraph several times to be as sure as I could be).

A search on the internet suggests Lewis was the older character in the novels (in spite of being Morse's assistant and treated by Morse as a junior member of staff).

The Wikipedia article currently shows (and indeed references) the ages of Morse and Lewis and this would suggest Lewis is the younger person. Is it possible that Dexter later edited the ages of the characters in his reprinted novels? If Colin Dexter was willing to change Morse's car (which got 300 miles to a full tank and therefore fits his cheapskate lifestyle), perhaps he was also willing to alter the characters themselves.

It would be interesting to quote and compare what other references may exist in the various novels, because if what has currently been shown on Wikipedia (viz. Morse is in his forties at the start of the books (Service of all the Dead, Chapter Six: "… a bachelor still, forty-seven years old …"), and Lewis slightly younger (e.g. The Secret of Annexe 3, Chapter Twenty-Six: "a slightly younger man – another policeman, and one also in plain clothes") is correct and not a misreading as regards to whether the 'slightly younger man' is a reference to Lewis, there is an inconsistency with the novels, and this is interesting.

If I re-read the above novels (doubtful), I will try to come back here and give a proper reference for what I have said. 213.78.140.53 (talk) 21:20, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I used the search feature on a website and it helped me find the reference in my book without having to re-read it entirely. Lucky me...

"Last Bus to Woodstock", 1975 (repr. 1997), p.90 (I am quoting from the printed page in the book that I have in front of me):

[Morse is speaking to Lewis]

'Do you think she's lying, Lewis?'

'I'm not so sure now.'

'Come off it, man. When you're as old as I am you'll recognize a liar a mile off!'

Lewis remained doubtful: he was by several years the older man anyway. Silence fell between them.

This is quite an odd exchange. Why Morse would claim to be older if he isn't is unclear, and there is something unusual about the use of the colon on that final quoted line. Still, there you have it: in this exchange, the narrator describes Lewis to be either literally or figuratively the older man. 213.78.140.53 (talk) 21:54, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, it is possible that 'he was [...] the older man' is referring to Morse, and not to Lewis, but that would mean the sentence has two subjects and to give a sentence two subjects would generally be considered to be poor grammar. 213.78.140.53 (talk) 21:58, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]